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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 4 will come in July &#8211; or maybe not</title>
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		<title>By: Thoby</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple already announced that the iPad will be shipped to Singapore in July...way before this year WWDC..which Apple announced that the iPhone 4 will be shipped to SIngapore in July. So, I don&#039;t think the date will be pushed back because of the iPad. And following pervious iPhones launch day in Singapore, I really doubt the IDA will need some time to do their testing. Furthermore, iPhone 3gs was introduced on 8th June 2009 and it was released in Singapore on July 11th.  So I guess, the only reason why the launch day will be delayed is because of the availability of the phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple already announced that the iPad will be shipped to Singapore in July&#8230;way before this year <span class="caps">WWDC..</span>which Apple announced that the iPhone 4 will be shipped to SIngapore in July. So, I don&#8217;t think the date will be pushed back because of the iPad. And following pervious iPhones launch day in Singapore, I really doubt the <span class="caps">IDA </span>will need some time to do their testing. Furthermore, iPhone 3gs was introduced on 8th June 2009 and it was released in Singapore on July 11th.  So I guess, the only reason why the launch day will be delayed is because of the availability of the phone.</p>
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		<title>By: kmsum</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2278</link>
		<dc:creator>kmsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Register your interest for iPhone 4
M1 http://ow.ly/23L1p
SH http://ow.ly/23L1w
No pre-ordering offer from the red camp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Register your interest for iPhone 4<br />
M1 <a href="http://ow.ly/23L1p" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/23L1p</a><br />
SH <a href="http://ow.ly/23L1w" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/23L1w</a><br />
No pre-ordering offer from the red camp</p>
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		<title>By: ivanl</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2267</link>
		<dc:creator>ivanl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I doubt the &quot;late Aug&quot; release timeframe:

A) I find it strange too, but I think Singtel will release first, following by Starhub &amp; M1 &quot;a few months&quot; later. Why this is so, is because ST also owns Optus in AU; by talking to just ST, Apple has 1 less party to negotiate with, for release in SG and AU.

B) Unless Apple officially announce otherwise, I doubt Jobs will allow those below his pecking order to do &quot;B&quot; when he tells the whole world &quot;A&quot;. (IMHO, telcos, music labels and soon book publishers, listens to Jobs). Given the pre-order success in US, it &quot;may&quot; be possible for an official &quot;we&#039;ll be late by 1 month&quot; announcement (think iPad) - we&#039;ll see. After all, Apple did say this is fastest worldwide availability ramp-up in iPhone&#039;s history =&gt; confidence in iPhone production.

C) Apple SG online store seems to be geared up to sell iPhone directly to the public. Does it mean we can get un-subsidized, no-contract iPhones? If so, Apple can act independently of the 3 telcos here, for release in July, as per their CEO.

C.1) SG ability to directly get un-subsidized, no-contract iPhones is in itself, IMHO, a big topic for discussion. Why do this (only) now? Is it because Apple is worried large groups of users already burdened with a 2-yr contract, won&#039;t upgrade? What will happen to the large amount of resources the 3 telcos have already put in place in terms of support, warranty? (Remember, for all other mobile phone brands, the telco does ABSOLUTELY zero - they simply refer users to the Samsung, Nokia, Moto, etc service centers. But for Apple, ST/SH/M1 put in an entire change of support infra.)

C.2) Given Apple SG store pricing of 3GS 8GB @ S$748, and comparing against telco pricing, the telcos seem to be subsidizing at about S$550 per phone, which is above that of a normal phone over 2-years (at S$240-S$300). So, the question is, does it make financial sense to buy un-subsidized, given the S$300 telco penalty for upgrading after 12-months (highest likelihood given Apple&#039;s yearly iPhone release)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I doubt the &#8220;late Aug&#8221; release timeframe:</p>
<p>A) I find it strange too, but I think Singtel will release first, following by Starhub &amp; M1 &#8220;a few months&#8221; later. Why this is so, is because ST also owns Optus in AU; by talking to just <span class="caps">ST,</span> Apple has 1 less party to negotiate with, for release in SG and <span class="caps">AU.</span></p>
<p>B) Unless Apple officially announce otherwise, I doubt Jobs will allow those below his pecking order to do &#8220;B&#8221; when he tells the whole world &#8220;A&#8221;. (IMHO, telcos, music labels and soon book publishers, listens to Jobs). Given the pre-order success in <span class="caps">US, </span>it &#8220;may&#8221; be possible for an official &#8220;we&#8217;ll be late by 1 month&#8221; announcement (think iPad) &#8211; we&#8217;ll see. After all, Apple did say this is fastest worldwide availability ramp-up in iPhone&#8217;s history =&gt; confidence in iPhone production.</p>
<p>C) Apple SG online store seems to be geared up to sell iPhone directly to the public. Does it mean we can get un-subsidized, no-contract iPhones? If so, Apple can act independently of the 3 telcos here, for release in July, as per their <span class="caps">CEO.</span></p>
<p><span class="caps">C.1</span>) SG ability to directly get un-subsidized, no-contract iPhones is in itself, <span class="caps">IMHO, </span>a big topic for discussion. Why do this (only) now? Is it because Apple is worried large groups of users already burdened with a 2-yr contract, won&#8217;t upgrade? What will happen to the large amount of resources the 3 telcos have already put in place in terms of support, warranty? (Remember, for all other mobile phone brands, the telco does <span class="caps">ABSOLUTELY </span>zero &#8211; they simply refer users to the Samsung, Nokia, Moto, etc service centers. But for Apple, ST/SH/M1 put in an entire change of support infra.)</p>
<p><span class="caps">C.2</span>) Given Apple SG store pricing of 3GS 8GB @ S$748, and comparing against telco pricing, the telcos seem to be subsidizing at about S$550 per phone, which is above that of a normal phone over 2-years (at S$240-S$300). So, the question is, does it make financial sense to buy un-subsidized, given the S$300 telco penalty for upgrading after 12-months (highest likelihood given Apple&#8217;s yearly iPhone release)?</p>
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		<title>By: mr lim</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2261</link>
		<dc:creator>mr lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea you revived this blog. Haha.

I think that&#039;s what I would do. Wait for iPhone 4. The black one for sure. :D

Glad Australia&#039;s on the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea you revived this blog. Haha.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s what I would do. Wait for iPhone 4. The black one for sure. <img src='http://iheartapple.org/e/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Glad Australia&#8217;s on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: ivanl</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2260</link>
		<dc:creator>ivanl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pre-order for iPhone4 and iPad on 10 July in SG, with delivery in late July?
Kinda interesting both device &quot;clash&quot; together in July, if not for the consumers, then for the factories who have to work harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pre-order for iPhone4 and iPad on 10 July in <span class="caps">SG, </span>with delivery in late July?<br />
Kinda interesting both device &#8220;clash&#8221; together in July, if not for the consumers, then for the factories who have to work harder.</p>
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		<title>By: yAnn</title>
		<link>http://iheartapple.org/2010/06/iphone-4-will-come-in-july/#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator>yAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question is, white or black? Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question is, white or black? Hmm&#8230;</p>
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